For me, it’s Dame Lillard’s shooting.
I recently saw a post of Twitter asking who is the best shooter of all time not including and Steph, and just as I suspected I saw a bunch of people saying Dame.
I routinely see him put in the same category with guys like Steph, Klay, Ray Allen, Reggie Miller etc and it just blows me mind that people put him at the level.
Dame is a good shooter. An above average shooter. He is not a great shooter, nevermind an elite shooter.
He is 226th all time in 3 point percentage at .3707%
The league average is usually around 36%. So he is a slightly above average three point shooter.
I will give him credit as he is good at creating his shots and hitting difficult or deep ones, but why is it that people think he is elite?
Is it because he is known for taking deep 3s? Is it because he hit a couple of clutch threes in the playoffs?
I recently asked and someone said it’s because he won multiple 3 point contests. To me, that’s like saying Ichiro is one of the greatest power hitters of all time because he hit home runs at will in batting practice. It literally doesn’t mean anything in the context of real NBA games.
It has to be the long shots right? Because I’ve also seen people say Trae is an elite shooter but he is a below average shooter so it’s got to be the depth?
What aspect of a players game do y’all think is the most overrated???
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Among the top players, Wilt’s offensive game is a bit overrated. I would say Oscar and West were better offensive players in that era.
Though Wilt’s defense is also a bit underrated. You can make a strong case that he is a top 5 defender of all time.
I don’t really find anything overstated/overrated but I really hate when a team has zero defenders and the team can’t make 3s either. Like what’s the point
I feel for you 😂
Dang negative, which fan base you pissed off
That’s 2022 and early 2023 lakers(2-10 start). shot 26% from 3 in a very long stretch while playing no defense. add in ADs unavailability and you are watching a Bron/Melo at center rotation.
Sigh…. Because all types of 3-pointers (contested, off-dribble, catch and shoot, etc.) have the same expected %, right?
LeBron’s passing… Like I understand he is an exceptional passer but he is not better than Jokic, Hali, and Luka at passing right now
As a Celtics fan I wasn’t really sure how the Pacers had such a historic offense until I saw him in the ECF vs us and how quick he is penetrating and how much space he creates for his teammates it really is insane
Dame shoots at a higher volume tho
Also, He’s not a good catch and shoot player
Gobert defense. Elite defending bigs should be able to defend outside the paint at least at a mediocre level. The Admiral, Ben, AD, Wemby, Greek Freak, etc. all have the footwork to not be considered a liability on the perimeter. In the most recent playoffs, everyone watched Gobert get targeted as a mismatch. Getting fried by Luka is inevitable but looking that stupid during it is a personal issue. Gobert is great in rotations and obviously impacts the front-court but we’ve given him too much credit when there are plenty of better defenders in the league. I think that the “best defender on the best defensive team” argument is leaned on a bit too much. I should never be scared to see a 4 TIME DPOY in any matchup.
Gobert doesn’t pass most people’s eye test because the best way to play him is to put him in the worst possible situation (typically 1v2 defending the pick and roll) and not send any help and benefit elsewhere. His teams have been at or near the bottom of the league in percent of opponent spot up attempts for the entirety of his prime, but that doesn’t really jump off the screen as Rudy’s doing even though it 100% is.
Lol
Dame is top 5 shooter ever
Wilt’s offense was kinda overrated to an extent (and it’s usually what he is known for). Tho the flip side is his defensive capabilities is under-appreciated as he was elite on that side of the ball as well.
Same Lillard is definitely an overrated player. When he retires with no major accomplishment or accolade, I think people will see him for what he is. That said, he is a great three point shooter.
when anyone says “3 and D “ player
Very few players are that, and if they are; they really aren’t that effective
Jrue Holiday was an excellent 3 and D this season. Calling him that seems a bit unfair as he was more than that when the situation called for it but he shot .429 from 3 on almost 5 attempts a game, while playing excellent defense.
3 & D was kind of his floor and then he went up from there
No see he was wayyyyy more than a 3 n D guy. What I’m talking about is the PJ Tucker, Bruce Bowen type where fans are like “ get LeBron 3 3 n D guys and they will be good” it’s an overused term like using it for Jrue and a true 3 n D guys usually can’t dribble, pass. End up not being as valuable as the media and fans think they are
Kinda. 3 and Ds real value on offense is gravity. Its the idea of them making a 3, rather than actually shooting it that makes them valuable cause most of the time they dont actually shoot many 3s.
What they do instead is allow for good spacing by making their defender focus on them. The catch is that when they do shoot, they need to make it at a decent rate, but their overall duty on offense is minimal at best and sometimes straight up they are just there to keep their defenders busy.
On the flip side, they are charged with defending some of their opponents best players so that the stars dont have to and can focus on actually playing offense.
Shais defense. Some people legit claimed the man was an all defense caliber defender a while ago.
Like the dude is solid to be sure, but not even close to the way people wanna describe him as a 2 way player like that means shit if you arent actually a top tier defender in the league.
He aint defending the opponents best guy and it would be dumb if he was.
Hes not all defense caliber but he absolutely is a 2 way player.
I don’t understand this obsession with matchup defense. Hes an elite off ball defender who plays into our scheme perfectly in terms of overhelping and forcing turnovers. Also is still good enough one on one where he doesn’t get targeted.
It’s the same reason why impact defensive metrics loved him so much. Our defense was solidly better with him on the court, even without Lu or Chet.
Giannis - he is not a good passer. Yes, he gets above avg assists for a player his size, but most are simply lockouts due to gravity of other defenders forced to collapse onto him.
He is often even clumsy and off target w passes. He’s not bad per se as he can still hit his share of kickout assists, but he is not a good nor great passer some think he is. He’s not seeing quick and hard to see openings and threading difficult passes to the open man like a LeBron nor seeing ahead of time how people will position and react and moving in ways to create complex openings and delivering complex passes like a Jason Kidd or Jokic.
Again, Giannis is a very basic passer who benefits from gravity and makes very simple knockouts.