You’re admitting exactly what I was getting at though, that when we call Steph the greatest shooter of all time it’s really with the qualifier of 3pt shooting than just overall, which isn’t a fair comparison. You can’t take every type of passing into account for Magic and only consider 3pt shooting for Steph.

Also, the PnR was in the game way before the Jazz were formed as a team. They were running PnRs in the 60s.

Even if you want to say Magic might not be the flat out best in certain areas, he’s at least in contention. There’s tons of non-3pt shooting scenarios where Steph is clearly not even close to the best, and I think you can make a similar argument that your making against Magic when it comes to catch and shoot 3s. A post hook is a shot, an elbow fade is a shot, tons of ways the best shooter ever isn’t even serviceable, what ways can Magic just not pass the ball? He played PnR in his career.

Dame is closer to Steph than Bron is to Magic. Magic just had insane frequency and in every imaginable position and game scenario. There’s arguments to be made for other players in other aspects of shooting (post-up, catch and shoot, post) really with Steph we’re only talking about 3PT shooting, with Magic it’s any and every way you can pass a ball.

I’m going to counter the tide here and say Magic. Steph is the greatest shooter, but a lot of that is due to sheer volume of makes and his overall game.

How that compares to Magics assist numbers I don’t know, but I think if you compare Steph’s 25 or 100 best shots I don’t think it compares to Magics 25 or 100 best passes. Most of the best passers of all time are relatively stiff and one dimensional compared to Magic. I think Dame or Klay emulate a lot more of Steph’s shooting than Chris Paul or LeBron emulate of Magic.

If he ever makes it in you can basically guarantee he’s snubbing someone else more deserving. It’s hard to imagine there’s not 12-15 guys more deserving who retire within a few years of him, which basically guarantees he’ll miss a few ballots. You miss 3-4 ballots and suddenly you’ve faded that much more out of the picture, they’re already making room for the next generation.