The Top 5 Centers for Next season are kinda set: Joker, Embiid, AD, Bam, and Wemby
But who is 6th? Is it Sabonis since he just won back to back all nba selection?
Let’s talk about Domantas Sabonis.
Is he really the next best Center after the 5 centers above?
For his opposition, he have to compete against the likes of Kristaps, KAT, Chet, etc.
Do you think he deserved to be consitently put above KAT/Kristaps?.
Or you think his lack of defense should tank him.
And he is actually a worse player than KAT or Kristaps? Especially in the offensive end.
Or even Gobert. Do you think his Offense is more impotant and valuable than Gobert defense?
Remember, Sabonis is a almost a triple doube machine recently. But does that make him a better player?
What do you think?
Legend
Overrated - You think he is worse than KAT/Kristaps
Properly Rated - You think he same level or slightly better than Kristaps/KAT
Underrated - You think he is way better than Kristaps/KAT
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Lyrically supposed to represent?
Him & BAM & AD are in the same tier then Embid with Joker sitting alone at the top
Overrated he doesn’t bring the value of a top 35 player
Sabonis availability even thought he is playing very physical play is one of his biggest strengths.
If you compare healthy Porzingis with Sabonis, then it is not really a fair comparison.
Availability should always be factored into these conversations.
Well by the time he hit the NBA he had two bum knees and 2 broken achilles, and still produced at the highest level. Unfortunately USSR wasn’t letting players come over to the NBA when he was healthy.
Overly hated
Overrated imo. Not as good as his counting stats as a rebounder/passer, not as good in the playoffs as a regular season and is an inherently hard archetype to build around (non spacing non rim protecting big).
He’s good but he’s not an All-Star calibre guy imo.
This basically. Every kings game I watched last year he’d put up like 13/11/10 in a loss, with him being a pretty big negative at times those games. However, just because he’s a center, his playmaking duties for some reason make him seem like a top player according to advanced stats, when in reality I don’t think there’s a GM who takes him over Bam Adebayo, Rudy Gobert, Anthony Davis, Victor Wembanyama, Chet Holgram.
Confusing comments.
He made All NBA 3rd team the last 2 seasons.
He’s a top 5 big in the L. 3rd best C in the L right now after Jokic and Embiid.
Before y’all lose it, emphasis on RIGHT NOW. Wemby will likely surpass him, and maybe others, this season.
Properly rated I feel
I’m tired boss.
Don’t forget, he won the “beat the Lakers in the regular season” championship that Kings fans keep bringing up
It’s not the “beat the Lakers” championship. It’s the “never lost to AD in his entire career” championship.
It’s not that serious and most realize there is more to the games than just Sabonis vs. AD. However, its reactions like this that make it fun.
Underrated
Overrated
Good but not dominant scorer who is very dependent on the match up, he’s a GREAT play finisher, but his post game just doesn’t work at all vs guys who can match his strenght
Gets a crazy amount of his assists on basic handoffs, still a very good passer but no where near the elite passer that some of his assists numbers seem to indicate
Very good rebounder but again, I am supposed to believe he’s some sort of insane rebounder after getting ABUSED by Kevon Looney on the boards a year ago
Has never been good in the playoffs wether it’s as a role player or a star
Funnily enough his defense is not THAT bad, but still he’s a center that can neither switch nor protect the rim, that puts a hard ceiling on a team’s defense that even a well below average guard wouldn’t
He is an elite rebounder only part of his game I won’t disrespect tho
Yeah he’s almost perfectly constituted as the type of player who is better in the regular season than the playoffs – a big who has ball skills but isn’t elite at any one thing.
I wish Sabonis the best but you’re exactly right - you have a hard ceiling on your team if your center is a poor defender. Sabonis has continued to improve on offense but you have to be Jokic essentially to have it cancel out (and even then, Jokic is a better defender).
I think in order to maximize Sabonis’ talents you need a rim-protecting stretch 4 - so essentially you need to pair him with Jaren Jackson Jr and that’s just not happening.
My unpopular take is that while both teams benefited from the Hali/Sabonis trade, the Pacers were the clear winners. It’s a lot easier to hide a guard on D than it is a center.
“My unpopular take is that while both teams benefited from the Hali/Sabonis trade” even if they had to trade Haliburton because they think Fox is better (which can still be defended) the talent downgrade is still huge for me, Haliburton is younger and Sabonis will never be at the level he showed last year before his injury
Even if u think hali is clearly better than fox. And wanna trade fox for sabonis thats still a ginormous talent gap between both guards compared to him. The answer was just not to trade either of them for him
The answer was to trade either one of them for a better player then Sabonis and if that player wasnt available just wait
Basically yea
Sums up my views on him but I feel this is unpopular (and a bit harsh maybe).
My biggest gripe with his game is his post play. His go to move is to elbow someone real hard in the chest (yes i"m exagerating but sometimes he really does just that) and that doesn’t feel like a basketball move.
I feel like he’s simultaneously overrated and underrated. There’s people who because of the playoffs/rim protection act like he’s useless. And then there’s people who become obsessed with his regular season and box score numbers that they forget his deficiencies towards building a real contender.
Very few people imo are weighing those properly, and tbh it’s hard to even say what is the right place to put him.