Two MVP seasons and a MVP runner up. A reasonable comparison, I think.
Notes
- Regular season stats below.
- Did not include playoff stats but you should consider their postseason forms in your evaluation of them as a player. This is not “who had the best regular season?” It’s more like “which player do you trust more to win you a championship?”
- For 2011 Rose and 2017 Russ, try not to consider anything that happened after their MVP season.
- Yes I know Rose was far younger than them and this is inherently “unfair.” Speaks to how good he was.
2011 Rose
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26.7 / 4.4 / 8.2 per 75 possessions
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+0.9% rTS%, 6.8 BPM
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+4.29 LEBRON (+4.29 off, -0.53 def)
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62-19, +8.8 on-court, +2.8 on/off
2017 Russ
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33.6 / 11.3 / 11.0 per 75 possessions
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+0.02% rTS%, 11.1 BPM
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+5.79 LEBRON (+5.63 off, +0.16 def)
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46-35, +4.0 on-court, +12.5 on/off
2024 Shai
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31.8 / 5.9 / 6.6 per 75 possessions
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+5.6% rTS%, 9.0 BPM
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+5.26 LEBRON (+4.34 off, +0.92 def)
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55-20, +11.9 on-court, +11.4 on/off
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Bold indicates the highest value among the three. “LEBRON” is an all-in-one impact metric based on both box score data & play-by-play data.
Again, question is who is the best player, not who has the best stats - the stats should simply help inform you. Who would you trust most to win you a championship if you built a team around them? And rank the three.
Russ, Shai, Rose
2024 Shai
2017 Russ
2011 Drose
2017 Russ had the best individual season while 2017 Rose had the best combination of individual success with team success.
No one will remember 2024 SGA’s season in the same light as those other two’s MVP season.
For a great roster: SGA, Russ, Rose
For a mediocre to poor roster: Russ, SGA, Rose
Question is for leading your team to a championship , ur not winning one with a mediocre to poor roster regardless of which of the 3 you have
Russ, Shai, Rose
Maybe the dude that’s leading in advanced metrics, on/off and all 3 major counting stats
2017 Russ>
maybe the guy who could actually win a playoff series
Rose/SGA > Westbrook
TBF it’s easier to lead in counting stats when you’re carrying a bad team than it is when you’re carrying a good team.
It’s also generally agreed upon that sustaining high on/offs is harder (or more important) as your team is better. Easy to argue that Shai’s +11.4 on/off is more impressive and/or supportive of his case than Russ’ +12.5.
That’s why I added the disclaimer for people not to rely upon the numbers too much.
Of course Russ is more than a fair pick though.
Rose is definitely last, toss up between Shai and Russ
Shai, Russ, Rose
Trick question, the real answer is 1992 Jordan