Disclaimer: I will still include Embiid even if he plays for USA. At the same time, I want to include Sabonis too since he plays for Lithuania (and his father is a former Lithuanian Player).
USUAL LIST
1.Joker
2.Giannis
3.Luka
4.SGA
5.Embiid
Now, is Wemby 6th? And the one who is knocking on the door?
Or Players like Pascal, Sabonis, Lauri, Gobert, Porzingis, etc should be considered too?
Do you think Wemby can replace any of the top 5 in 2-3 yrs time? Or he will need 5 yrs to tke over?
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I’m taking 25 and 10 with defensive player of the year pretty much on lock next year over Shai, don’t care
I’m not going to say he’s better than Embiid, but he definitely looked like a solid no. 6 or 7 coming into the 2nd half of the season. Keep in mind that the kid was still playing on minutes restriction and on an otherwise absolutely awful team.
Pair him up with a good PG, and he’ll take a couple steps up offensively.
My guy, i dont even like embiid and i know its a crazy take to compare wemby to embiid.
Does embiid count if he just played in the Olympics for the US?
I think he’s better than Embiid at this point. Definitely clears the next tier like Siakam/Sabonis etc
Embiid won MVP less than 2 seasons ago……what are you smoking?
Bait
Bro he’s a rookie and he do not clear sabonis wtf
Thank you for dropping the absolute worst take I’ve seen today
too many casuals in this sub it’s getting exhausting
too many casuals in this sub it’s getting exhausting
Yeah Wemby scoring 70 on Embiid really solidifies that he’s better than him.
Wait hold up
Lmao sixer fans always bring up this game when comparisons are made. I’m not saying one is better than the other, but Joel only scared 8 of his 70 against Victor. Also had something like 25 Free throws that game lmao
I agree comparing players in one game is kinda pointless.
Lets compare season.
Wemby last year 21.4/10.6/3.9 PIE 16.2
Embiid’s last full season (2022) 33.1/10.2/4.2 PIE 21.3
It’s close, but personally I’d give the slight edge to Embiid.
You’re being disingenuous, right? You’re coming off as if I offended you personally because I’m not deep gobblin Joel. All i did was provide context about the 70 point game, and threw in a free throw merchant shot.
Regardless of that, comparing a rookie season to a players 9th year in the league is one of the most r/nba shit i’ve seen in awhile lmao
I just found it very funny you were playing it coy with the “not saying on is better than the other” when one is very clearly much better than the other.
I preempted the context to specifically avoid getting into the whole drawn out “mY pLaYeRs BeTtEr LoOkiN!!1!” spiel. Because I know that weird mfs on r/nba like to treat players like their best friends and will defend them to death.
I was just providing context to the discussion, nothing to take to heart.
by including it you give off the vibe that there is a debate when there simply isn’t. It’s ok that your guy isn’t as good as a guy that won MVP 2 years ago. You don’t need to crown him before he accomplishes anything. I’m sure he will get much better and be in these convos at some point. Just enjoy the ride brother.
“close”
The question then becomes, if Wemby is better, why he didn’t stop Embiid or tried to guars him more lmao
if you ignore reality this makes a lot of sense actually.
Can’t wait to revisit this after this season 🤣 not a single sane take
How someone could watch the last year of basketball and say he isn’t at least close to joining those guys is beyond me
The guy ranked 5th in OP’s list averaged 34/10 on 65% TS last year
I think he’s a bit more than “close to” current Wemby lol
He’s been in the league one season and won ROY and 2nd in DPOY. To say he can’t be MVP level next season is crazy to me. He’s different.
every single player listed is either a former MVP or in the conversation. Wemby might be a star soon, but he’s not there yet.
Because all of those guys are hall of fame level half court offense players … you know the most valuable part of basketball which Wemby has not showed yet.
Unless he makes an even bigger relative leap this season than last (which would be insane, last season’s was already a massive jump from game 1 to game 82) his ceiling is maybe very back end of top 10 all players. This list either is or is close to the actual top 5 in the NBA.
The one thing that makes it interesting is CP3 unlocking his game could go crazy, but if he needs someone else to unlock him then he’s not top 5.
I mean those top 5 can arguably be considered the top 5 overall in the NBA right now. They occupied spots 1-4 in the MVP voting and the 5th would likely been there if he didn’t get hurt. Wemby is probably up next but he’s definitely not there yet
Right now, he’s an equal to Sengun … so no, not yet.
Too many players had career nights against him last year.
Luka, Giannis, Jokic, Shai, and Embiid (Maybe) are definitively better.
If you don’t count Embiid here are some guys he’d have to be better than:
Siakam, KAT, Markannen, Sengun, RJ Barrett, Kyrie, Gobert, Porzingis, Sabonis, Wagner
Can people stop with kyrie being Australian 😭 he’s not culturally or ethnically Australian. Yes he was born there but that’s only cause his dad was playing there. He only lived there two years
Maybe. If all goes according to plan, then in the next 2 to 3 years he is gonna start surpassing some of them. And as Embid, Giannis and Jokic start to decline and Wemby starts entering his prime…most certainly.
But this is all under the asumption that he doesnr get a huge injury in the near future.
I don’t think he’s knocking for top5, but he might be close to 6th after next season, or actually be 6th, depending how things turn out
If Kings doesn’t make the playoffs, then people might be willing to put him over sabonis, but if Kings does make it, then they might lean towards him
As a Spurs fan the fact that these types of talks comparing Wemby with the very best of the league right after Wemby’s rookie season just has me so hyped. It hasn’t even been a full year since his rookie debut haha
Give me 7 foot 5 alien who’s gonna average 25 and 10 along with a DPOY next year over Shai, don’t care
The glazing over Wemby needs to stop. He won’t be a competitor for another 5 or more years.
I would take Wemby over Embiid right now.