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Joker and Giannis are both in their primes now. And they deliver MVP and FMVP level seasons to Nuggets and Bucks respectively.

But due to the new cba contract

Both teams are losing key role players that builded around the two superstars.

And they are not doing any significant moves still.

But which franchise front office do you think is doing worse recently in terms of building around their superstar?

Nuggets or Bucks?

  • Lol69HaHaHaB
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    3 months ago

    Ok im gonna defend my teams FO for once and say its kinda bs on both counts.

    Giannis legit threatened to leave so they made a major move that backfired on the. That said the whole operation went down because Giannis got injured 2 times in a row for the 1st round of the playoffs.

    Say what you want, but the Bucks havent actually been doibg a bad job on their part, its the players that have had bad luck or just didnt work out as expected.

    For the Nuggets, there isnt much you can actually do here. The expectations that MPJ had when he got his contract was that hed be able to develope into a superstar or at least a top tier player to help Jokic win. This didnt turn out as expected due to him getting a major injury and just him not progressing. Fair enough if you wanna say they did a bad job with him, because his conteact is the root of all problems.

    Zekes contract too caused the FO to not be able to match the Magics offer for KCP.

    So yeah its a lot of bad contracts, but its a small market with annoying taxes.

    That said not retaining Bruce isnt really a mistake imo. Theyd be paying him too much money they didnt have. He got 20M a year and the most the Nuggets could give hin was 10.

    Other than that, not much can be donne without trading MPJ. Zeke is more or less untradable, cause nobody wants him.

    Ao they are stuck with minimum contracts. The guys drafted werent bad, but still raw during that time.

    I mean mistakes were made, but its not as bad as people make it out to be. The KCP one though was a major fumble.

    • greenwhitehellB
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      3 months ago

      The expectations that MPJ had when he got his contract was that hed be able to develope into a superstar or at least a top tier player to help Jokic win.

      Nah, the expectation was that Denver wouldn’t attract stars anyway so might as well max him and pay tax if need be, which was the only penalty at the time. The 2nd apron changed things significantly.

      MPJ’s development curve was above reasonable expectations, not below them. If they expected him to become a genuine shot creator the FO was actually brain dead, which is one of only two realistic pathways for him to be a star. The other would be top tier defense, where he already improved way more than you would expect at the time but he’s still around average (from a big liability at the time of the extension).

      Essentially, it would take multiple miracles for him to be worth the max. One of them happened too, which is health lmao. But he’d need some more. But him being worth the contract was significantly less relevant when they signed it than it is now