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  • SchmoovaBtoNBAESPN NBA Rank 2024: Players 50-11
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    2 hours ago

    22ppg and 3apg 2nd option on mid efficiency over DMitch and Book… Just such a terrible opinion.

    Both proven playoff performers, 27ppg scorers on good efficiency, 1st options on great teams. Behind a guy who’s way worse at everything on the court sans Defense. Their offensive gap over JB is much more impactful than the gap in defensive impact.


  • Yawn such a tired conversation.

    Kidd only won when he was old and washed scoring 8ppg, so it’s not like him or CP3 meaningfully won more than Nash.

    But not having a ring doesn’t disqualify you from greatness.

    • Harden is one of the best offensive players ever, top 3 in MVP voting like 7 different times, no ring.

    • CP3 is the one of the best PGs ever, top 3 player in the world during his prime, no ring.

    • Barkley won an MVP over prime MJ and prime Hakeem, no ring.

    • Russ had a historic MVP year when he won, no ring.

    • AI was an MVP and 4x scoring champ, no ring.

    Winning an NBA championship takes a lot of luck in certain senses. Just cuz some guys didn’t ever get there doesn’t mean they aren’t great. Harden was only stopped by what many consider the best team ever in the KD Warriors. Nash had one of the most stacked conferences ever fighting with the Lakers, Mavs, and Spurs. They almost definitely win rings in other years, like I’d take the Nash Suns or Harden Rockets over any champ in the ‘20s personally, but their comp was just much harder. It doesn’t mean those guys weren’t rightfully MVPs.