Genuine question about Noah Lyles’s comments.

Noah says that NBA Champ isn’t world champ. I don’t agree with his comments, but everyone argues that all the best players in the world play in the NBA. However, I want to consider an aspect of this argument that isn’t as discussed as much.

Example 1: Sergio Llull. Legit superstar in Euroleague, drafted into NBA, but he declined to play in the NBA by his own decision. In the Olympics and FIBA, he legit torched Team USA with players like Kobe and Chris Paul and Wade. I’m just wondering, if he had the talent to play as a legit superstar in the league like Jokic or Luka (insane shotmaking ability/playmaking), then is it actually true that the “best players in the world” come to play in the NBA?

Example 2: Yi Jianlian. Insane talent with good height and length but had problems succeeding in the NBA. I would assume that although he had insane talent, one of the reasons why he didn’t reach his potential was that he had problems communicating and acclimating to American life, especially with learning the language and living as a foreigner. Wouldn’t that aspect of acclimating to American culture, communicating, living USA lifestyle, limit the talent and potential that a foreign player can possess?

Example 3: Real Madrid beat both OKC and Dallas in Preseason. Although the starters didn’t play big minutes in those games, those were still NBA players. If even second, third string NBA players, which are still the top talents in the world, can lose to Real Madrid, would Real Madrid players have a legit shot at the NBA, but just due to some external reason other than basketball didn’t join the NBA?

Thank you for your inputs!

  • swaggerpandoraB
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    2 months ago

    Gotta say, he is chasing publicity and boosting his profile outside the track and field community, and so far, he’s accomplished just that. The fact that he won the gold medal certainly helps his case a lot. I still stand by my belief that all great talents are in the NBA. And a few who are not there, I don’t think they are “the superstars” like Jokic, Luka or Giannis, they are probably a second tier or All-Stars at best, so really that doesn’t change anything.

    • mbdtf95B
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      2 months ago

      I still stand by my belief that all great talents are in the NBA

      Again it’s semantic. Us Europeans who side with Noah Lyles are perfectly aware that basically all the best talent in the world is in the NBA, but again point is about semantics in that it is dumb to call yourself a world champion for winning a domestic league, no matter how inarguably better we all know NBA is than any other league.

      It’s just the fact that it’s a domestic league competition, no other teams beyond US and Canada had chance to compete so you cannot call yourself world champion by winning it. I mean, you can, but you also can get laughed at by people abroad for doing something a bit ignorant like that.

      • DarkPhantom2497B
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        2 months ago

        Yeah but at that point no one is a “world champion” because Lyles didn’t race all the humans in the world including tribes living on remote islands.

        • mbdtf95B
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          2 months ago

          Oh my god you simply don’t get it. He doesn’t need to race every human to prove it wtf, difference is that people from all around the world can compete in their local continental championships to get a chance to get to a final 100m race.

          • DarkPhantom2497B
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            2 months ago

            Yeah they “could” but they didn’t. In fact, those tribes on remote islands don’t even know the championships were being held.

            If Noah Lyles is so heartbent on taking these literal, he must also take it literal within his own sport.