I watched spud web dunk on the shitty mavs in Dallas.
What exactly is illegal defense? Is it just the same as saying a foul?
Zone D was illegal then.
3 in the key first of all. But beyond that, in this era you couldn’t not guard someone. You had to guard your man, or commit to a double. You could sag off naturally but you can’t just stand between like that, especially in the key which is illegal today still. The spacing was much more compact those days so they had different rules to keep the game fluid. Modern era also makes rules to make offense easier and more exciting.
The comments fail to realize the illegal defense had nothing to do with Mugsy, who actually swiped at the ball after the whistle was blown, and you can hear the commentators noticing the illegal defense prior to the whistle.
3 in the key wasn’t till 2001-2
Shit. All my other points stand. That’s it for me folks 😂
That’s perfect. I think that’s Glen Rice, the second he’s below the free throw line and his man is about the 3 point line it’s illegal.
An example. If Rudy Gobert was standing above the three point line at the top, his defender would have to stand top of the free throw line.
You could leave someone unguarded, but only if you were committed to a hard double. You couldn’t double a player without the ball.
If Jordan is posting up, you can’t double team him until the pass to him is in the air.
There are a lot of specific rules, but that gives you an idea.
Pause at 12 seconds. Before zone was allowed in the NBA you can’t “not guard someone” for longer than 2.9 seconds. Parish was just standing in the lane.
Also OP, the strip was after the whistle lol.
Zone defense was illegal back in the day.
If you watch the paint, the Bulls players clear out, but the defense lingers a little bit forming a “fucking wall” for Jordan.
It’s a totally 100% legal way to defend right now in the NBA which is why it looks like nothing.
When zone defense was legalized then instituted a 3 seconds in the paint rule for defense.
There were very strict rules about guarding a single person and when and how you could double team another player. Someone gets caught in the middle between guarding their player and coming over to help Bogues with a double team on Jordan.
Really a shame they used this dumb, contrived rule for so long. Watching players figure out how to deal with defenses collapsing on them is how are you ascend from stardom to legend status on that end, LeBron developing a post game, Steph stretching his range to 35 feet, harden deepening his bag so that he can move her to the hoop at the exact moment a defense shows him a crack, KD getting to his spots with a ball fake and one dribble, Luca or CP3 keeping defenders in jail by blocking them with their hip, we will never see any of the superstars from this era or any before it had to deal with anything besides the occasional hard double.
It’s not contrived. It’s no different than how the rules favored offense that came later. Eventually a rule works until it doesn’t or the game passes it by. If we think about the early 80’s and this rule wasn’t in place, and no one shot the 3 ball well, what would any team need to do except pack the areas where players are more comfortable getting their shot. I wish ppl would stop acting like the NBA, the game that changes decade to decade, and know they need to entertain crowds, just put a dumb rule in the game randomly, just because you can’t think of how basketball could exist if it’s not the contemporary era. The rule had a point, the league changed, the rule was no longer needed. It’s that simple. Maybe try to understand before you just say something is dumb
Man NBA bent over backwards to cater to MJ. Wilt was right.
Who remembers the iconic poster of this Bogues sizing up mj ?
I feel like I’ve seen a poster from this exact play…
Any fart sent at Miichael or lebron results in a foul or illegal defense.
I don’t get it exactly. Was that a clean swipe? When I played, they always looked at the direction the ball went on a swipe down. If it’s clean, the ball goes down while the hands go up. Usually if the ball continues upwards, that means the defender didn’t get their hands on it, most likely a foul.
Spud Webb didnt why not Mugsy
The skill level and athleticism you would need to get NBA minutes at 5’3 is pretty crazy to think about.
I mean yeah it was a different era, but still very impressive he managed to not only compete, but actually excel in the league
Why A.I. is top 10 for me all time NBA, people will say that’s insane too say, the guy averaged 24 as a rookie at like 5’10" in the 90’s. His lifetime is 27 ppg and he also trails just MJ and luka in PPG playoffs all time at 30 per game(71 games played). Dude was an absolute machine with the ball.
Yeah it’s not talked about enough I don’t think. The odds against making the nba at that height are astronomical
I wonder if he would have been even better at a another sport where height wasn’t as big of a factor.
The cynical part of me thinks that there isn’t any other sport out there that could put a chip on his shoulder like basketball could. Sort of like anti-Shaq.
Horse racing
Formula 1 perhaps with his low center of grav
Dude had a season where he averaged 4 rebounds, and this was not in an era where there were a millions missed 3s bouncing long off the rim.
You wanted a rebound in the big man era you were fighting for it and getting in position. That’s probably the best encapsulation of why he lasted, he didn’t back down and was genuine a passing wizard. Averaged almost 11 assists that year too.
Mugsy, at that height , to make the nba is one most impressive things you’ll ever see in sports. He also had an insane vertical.
When you slap down at the ball and the ball continues to go up… you hit wrists.
Foul.
The problem was there was a guy sitting there instead of following his man. Back then you couldn’t play help defense. You had to either commit all the way to the double team or follow your man.
Jordan famously really dislikes Mugsy lol
The shit Michael use to call Muggsy too…